Resistance is Futile

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  Advice needed about my study with a JW.

  by Resistance is Futile in

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  i've never been a jw, and i'm having a difficult time trying to understand the perspective of a born-in jw.

  i want to ask questions that will cause this family member to began to think outside the box, but i don't want to trip off any apostate alarms and have him put his guard up.

  i also don't want to waste time and energy asking questions that he can easily brush off and give the prepackaged watchtower answer without having to really think.

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  I've always wanted to earnestly ask if they have ever shunned someone close to them and how they feel about it.

  I already asked that one. I know firsthand that his family has been torn apart by this cultish practice. The response I got was a complete suppression of human emotions. I also saw the typical place the blame on the person who is no longer part of the group. "They left Jehovah. They want to sin. They want to live without rules." I got the impression that showing too much real emotion about the situation might imply a lack of faith in "God's ways". I do plan on bringing up the shunning policy again, but I imagine that's not a subject they feel very comfortable discussing with a potential convert. It certainly doesn't give the best witness about the love they have amongst themselves.
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  Watchtower Doctrine: Makes perfect sense, as long as you don't think about it.

  by Resistance is Futile in

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  my background, i've never been a jw.

  i've got extended family in the religion.

  i'm in the middle of a bible watchtower publication study with one of them who thinks i'm interested in joining the religion.

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  Resistance is Futile

  Satan is a fictional boogieman. A primitive superstition. A construct of the human mind. So he can observe time in anyway that you want him to.
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  Advice needed about my study with a JW.

  by Resistance is Futile in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've never been a jw, and i'm having a difficult time trying to understand the perspective of a born-in jw.

  i want to ask questions that will cause this family member to began to think outside the box, but i don't want to trip off any apostate alarms and have him put his guard up.

  i also don't want to waste time and energy asking questions that he can easily brush off and give the prepackaged watchtower answer without having to really think.

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  Resistance is Futile

  I've never been a JW, and I'm having a difficult time trying to understand the perspective of a born-in JW. I want to ask questions that will cause this family member to began to think outside the box, but I don't want to trip off any apostate alarms and have him put his guard up. I also don't want to waste time and energy asking questions that he can easily brush off and give the prepackaged Watchtower answer without having to really think.

  When you were still a JW how would you have answered this question, "Was Jehovah using an earthly organization from the time in between the first century until Charles Russell started his organization in the late 1800's?" "Which organization had the truth during that time period?" Like I said I'm trying to ask questions that might not have easy or satisfactory answers contained in the WT CD.

  Can anyone offer up any questions or issues that really caused you to stop and think when you were a JW? What were some of the early red flags you may have noticed about the Watchtower doctine or organization?
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  Watchtower Doctrine: Makes perfect sense, as long as you don't think about it.

  by Resistance is Futile in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my background, i've never been a jw.

  i've got extended family in the religion.

  i'm in the middle of a bible watchtower publication study with one of them who thinks i'm interested in joining the religion.

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  Resistance is Futile

  Oh boy. So according to the Watchtower, Jesus was apparently just "hanging out" in heaven from 33 C.E. till 1914. I guess he needed a vacation anyway, it's got to be tough living up to the expectations of being perfect.

  
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  Watchtower Doctrine: Makes perfect sense, as long as you don't think about it.

  by Resistance is Futile in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my background, i've never been a jw.

  i've got extended family in the religion.

  i'm in the middle of a bible watchtower publication study with one of them who thinks i'm interested in joining the religion.

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  Resistance is Futile

  If I'm confusing Watchtower doctrine please correct me. Most JW's have a hard time understanding and explaining all their doctrine, so go easy on me.
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  Watchtower Doctrine: Makes perfect sense, as long as you don't think about it.

  by Resistance is Futile in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my background, i've never been a jw.

  i've got extended family in the religion.

  i'm in the middle of a bible watchtower publication study with one of them who thinks i'm interested in joining the religion.

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  Resistance is Futile

  My background, I've never been a JW. I've got extended family in the religion. Most were born-in. I'm in the middle of a Bible Watchtower Publication study with one of them who thinks I'm interested in joining the religion.

  The "Bible Teach?" book says that Jesus returned to heaven a few weeks after he was resurrected in 33 C.E. Answer me this question, and I'm curious how you would have answered this question back when you were a "true believer" in JW doctrine. How the hell did Jesus return to heaven in 1914 if he was already there to began with?

  Bonus question. Is anyone here familiar with Seventh-day Adventist doctrine considering what happened in "heaven" in 1844?
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  Any JW, please help- I need just one thing!

  by moshe in

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  --the name of a real live (not dead) member of the faithful and discreet slave class- someone who has admitted in public they are one of the f&ds and who can verify they have been providing the "meat in due season" for the governing body.

  obviously the gb can't be the f&ds, because they are neither discreet nor do they have a position of servitude- no, they have made it plain they are the bosses over jws and jws have to obey their words, as if jehovah and jesus were speaking them, or else they will get the disfellowshiped.

  just one verifiable name will do and how you obtained it.. the governing body claims that the f&ds are directing them and the worldwide work of jws, but they have never proven that they have a f&ds class they communicate with- just have one of the annointed call bethel and ask to speak to one of the gb and see what the switchboard operator does with their call.

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  I thought the members of the Governing Body are considered to be part of the Faithful and Discreet Slave? The real bait and switch for JW's is that they're told jesus appointed the "Slave Class" but in reality they're being led by a small group of men who "represent" the Slave. And they claim they don't go beyond the things written in the bible, haha.
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  Did Noah have a pet dinosaur?

  by Resistance is Futile in

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  does anyone know offhand what the watchtower teaches about dinosaurs?

  according to the society, did humans and dinosaurs exist together before the flood?

  i dont have a wt cd to research from, how could i go about getting a cd?

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  Does anyone know offhand what the Watchtower teaches about dinosaurs? According to the Society, did humans and dinosaurs exist together before the flood? I don’t have a WT CD to research from, how could I go about getting a CD? I’m currently “studying” with a JW and know he won’t give his own opinion about this question but instead look to the Watchtower for the answers. So I’m curious what he’ll find from his research.
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  Did Noah have a pet dinosaur?

  by Resistance is Futile in

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  Is this normal witness behavior?

  by confusedstudent in

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  i quit my bible study a couple days ago after taking a month or two to work up the guts.

  have been getting harassing emails/phone calls blah blah blah.

  but i got an email today telling me that an unbelieving spouse can be "sanctified" by his believing mate.

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  Resistance is Futile

  The Watchtower Society has practiced and honed their recruitment tactics for decades. The main reason they aren't upfront about their crazier beliefs to a potential convert is because it would scare them off quickly. So they start subtly, with a friendly Bible(Watchtower Publication) Study. Then they get their hooks in and slowly reel you into the Cult.

  Keep posting and reading as much as you can about this group in order to "deprogram" yourself. Going as deep as you did into the recruitment process can be slightly traumatic psychologically.